Talk:List of Gratian Manuscripts

Categories: A General Remark

As all versions of the List of Gratian Manuscripts except the first one are based on categories (above all Category:Manuscript of GR), the question which categories the articles on Gratian manuscripts are to be placed in is highly relevant for the list. Therefore, I will make a number of suggestions and comments here in the form of individual discussions so they can be discussed individually. My contributions are based on conversations Danica and I had among ourselves and with other contributors to this Wiki. I repeat some of my thoughts here to make more transparent how the existing categories came into being, to encouraged discussion of further improvement, and to document relevant discussions. Feel free to answer to this statement with more general comments or questions (but cee below for actual categories). atb Christof Rolker (talk) 20:07, 12 June 2025 (CEST)

Fragments

From early on, the Category: Fragment in this Wiki was used to mark physically (very) incomplete Manuscripts, often single leaves. For collections extant in very many copies, like Burchard, the Panormia, and the Liber Extra, there were also categories Like Category:Burchard Fragment. The main reason is that the distinction between more or less complete copies and smaller fragments is important for research, and unlike with collections extant in only a few copies this information cannot be easily integrated in the respective articles describing the collections. This also applies to Gratian. An additional reason to have the Category:Gratian Fragment was that our original list contained several fragments, but without any claim of completeness. Indeed a complete list of Gratian fragments is beyond our capability for the next years at least. However, for more or less complete copies this seems possible, and so it makes sense (I think) to have one category each for complete and for fragmentary copies, the former aiming at completeness and the latter at being useful for any scholar interested in fragments. atb Christof Rolker (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2025 (CEST)

maybe we adopt the same standard Martin Bertram uses for the List of Liber Extra mansucripts: only consider fragments of at least 10 folios, and ignore the rest Christof Rolker (talk) 11:59, 10 November 2025 (CET)