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:For the protocol, Clemens fixed this; we do the category now. [[User:Christof Rolker|Christof Rolker]] ([[User talk:Christof Rolker|talk]]) 20:27, 14 April 2023 (CEST) | :For the protocol, Clemens fixed this; we do the category now. [[User:Christof Rolker|Christof Rolker]] ([[User talk:Christof Rolker|talk]]) 20:27, 14 April 2023 (CEST) | ||
::In the long run we need to think about how to make sure that there are no entries in [[:Category:Manuscript]] that aren't listed here. I wrote a quick script comparing the GoogleList from two days ago with this one and found 32 manuscripts that are only in the category (most of them are older than the GoogleList, the full list is on my [[User:SStark#List of manuscripts only in Category:Manuscripts and not in the GoogleList | user page]]). Right now I'm focusing on finishing the infoboxes, but this issue is connected to the other "keeping entries up to date"-problems. I'll update this as soon as I know if I'll get around to it. [[User:SStark|SStark]] ([[User talk:SStark|talk]]) 03:22, 17 November 2024 (CET) | ::In the long run we need to think about how to make sure that there are no entries in [[:Category:Manuscript]] that aren't listed here. I wrote a quick script comparing the GoogleList from two days ago with this one and found 32 manuscripts that are only in the category (most of them are older than the GoogleList, the full list is on my [[User:SStark#List of manuscripts only in Category:Manuscripts and not in the GoogleList | user page]]). Right now I'm focusing on finishing the infoboxes, but this issue is connected to the other "keeping entries up to date"-problems. I'll update this as soon as I know if I'll get around to it. [[User:SStark|SStark]] ([[User talk:SStark|talk]]) 03:22, 17 November 2024 (CET) | ||
:::Thanks for the reminder. Mutually updating the Google list and the Clavis Wiki remains a real problem, esp if we are serious about the hundreds of [[Gratian]] and [[Liber extra]] manuscripts. atb [[User:Christof Rolker|Christof Rolker]] ([[User talk:Christof Rolker|talk]]) 21:44, 18 November 2024 (CET) | |||
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:The "Cod." is indeed part of the shelf mark; I've moved all pages and changed all references accordingly (using the "replace text" function). [[User:Christof Rolker|Christof Rolker]] ([[User talk:Christof Rolker|talk]]) 09:36, 6 October 2022 (CEST) | :The "Cod." is indeed part of the shelf mark; I've moved all pages and changed all references accordingly (using the "replace text" function). [[User:Christof Rolker|Christof Rolker]] ([[User talk:Christof Rolker|talk]]) 09:36, 6 October 2022 (CEST) | ||
== Library names with comma == | |||
Right now there are | |||
* "Cambridge, Mass., Harvard Law School Library" | |||
* "Columbia, University of Missouri, Ellis Library, Special Collections" | |||
* "Klagenfurt, Archiv der Diözese Gurk, Bischöfliche Bibliothek" | |||
* "New Haven, Yale University, Law Library" | |||
* "New Haven, Yale University, Beinecke Library" | |||
* "Venezia, Archivio di Stato, Secreta". | |||
Those cause problems when automatically trying to download the list because the second comma is normally understood to show the beginning of the shelfmark. I now could define exceptions for those, but I'd prefer for there simply being no commas in the library names (at least in what we have defined as the "Abbreviated as", I don't care about the full ones). I'd suggest either using ";", ":" or an empty space, or alternatively completely re-defining the abbreviations for them. [[User:SStark|SStark]] ([[User talk:SStark|talk]]) 13:27, 19 November 2024 (CET) |
Latest revision as of 13:27, 19 November 2024
Place names
Linda used English place names (except for Vatican City and Zurich), something we might want to change at some point? --Christof Rolker (talk) 15:32, 17 April 2022 (CEST)
- +1 from me, there are also sometimes subtle differences between how libraries and manuscripts are named by Linda and how the official institutions prefer to be cited. I have begun to include city, library, and shelfmark at the head of the page to the best of my abilities --Clemens Radl (talk) 18:47, 22 April 2022 (CEST)
- The Vienna mss are a case in point, I think they all lack a "Cod.". Also, we should be consistent in placing a comma both before and after the library name; but it is not worth the effort to change the URLs. Christof Rolker (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2022 (CEST)
- All place names should be in local language now, with only a few accents missing for some French cities. Christof Rolker (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2022 (CEST)
Manual list vs. automatic list of MSS
The current list was cerated semi-automatically by turning the MSS register in Linda's book into a list, and adding the necessary code to turn every entry in this list into a link. So first there were the links, and later the respective pages were created after someone clicked the red link, entered a description of the MS in question, and hit "save changes". Later still, the list was added to manually as manuscripts not in Linda's index were added, often in one go with the creation of pages.
In the long run, however, it may be more useful to hage a category rather than a list. All one needs is to add Category:Manuscript
to all pages describing a manuscript. --Christof Rolker (talk) 16:51, 4 October 2022 (CEST)
- For the protocol, Clemens fixed this; we do the category now. Christof Rolker (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2023 (CEST)
- In the long run we need to think about how to make sure that there are no entries in Category:Manuscript that aren't listed here. I wrote a quick script comparing the GoogleList from two days ago with this one and found 32 manuscripts that are only in the category (most of them are older than the GoogleList, the full list is on my user page). Right now I'm focusing on finishing the infoboxes, but this issue is connected to the other "keeping entries up to date"-problems. I'll update this as soon as I know if I'll get around to it. SStark (talk) 03:22, 17 November 2024 (CET)
- Thanks for the reminder. Mutually updating the Google list and the Clavis Wiki remains a real problem, esp if we are serious about the hundreds of Gratian and Liber extra manuscripts. atb Christof Rolker (talk) 21:44, 18 November 2024 (CET)
- In the long run we need to think about how to make sure that there are no entries in Category:Manuscript that aren't listed here. I wrote a quick script comparing the GoogleList from two days ago with this one and found 32 manuscripts that are only in the category (most of them are older than the GoogleList, the full list is on my user page). Right now I'm focusing on finishing the infoboxes, but this issue is connected to the other "keeping entries up to date"-problems. I'll update this as soon as I know if I'll get around to it. SStark (talk) 03:22, 17 November 2024 (CET)
Vienna MSS
The Vienna MSS really should all have "Cod." as part of the shelf mark, shouldn't they? --Christof Rolker (talk) 16:53, 4 October 2022 (CEST)
- The "Cod." is indeed part of the shelf mark; I've moved all pages and changed all references accordingly (using the "replace text" function). Christof Rolker (talk) 09:36, 6 October 2022 (CEST)
Library names with comma
Right now there are
- "Cambridge, Mass., Harvard Law School Library"
- "Columbia, University of Missouri, Ellis Library, Special Collections"
- "Klagenfurt, Archiv der Diözese Gurk, Bischöfliche Bibliothek"
- "New Haven, Yale University, Law Library"
- "New Haven, Yale University, Beinecke Library"
- "Venezia, Archivio di Stato, Secreta".
Those cause problems when automatically trying to download the list because the second comma is normally understood to show the beginning of the shelfmark. I now could define exceptions for those, but I'd prefer for there simply being no commas in the library names (at least in what we have defined as the "Abbreviated as", I don't care about the full ones). I'd suggest either using ";", ":" or an empty space, or alternatively completely re-defining the abbreviations for them. SStark (talk) 13:27, 19 November 2024 (CET)